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CNAME changes for Googlemail Apps, doesn't really work - drumlover - 08-29-2007 04:05 AM

Hey guys,
I have a question.
I started using Google Apps for a non-profit organization which requires over 2000 users, and to be nice to my resources I decided to use GoogleMail, Apps...
So now there is a problem I have encountered.
When I try to create a new CNAME line for googleApps, it shows it in google, that it should work fine, but when I try to call upon the defined domain it won't work...
Anybody can help?
Here's my bind file out of the dir /etc/ispcp/bind/
Code:
$TTL 86400
@    IN    SOA    ns.yfu-rheinland.de. root.yfu-rheinland.de. (
; dmn [yfu-rheinland.de] timestamp entry BEGIN.
             2007082601    
; dmn [yfu-rheinland.de] timestamp entry END.
            8H
            2H
            4W
            1D
)
        IN    NS    ns1.yfu-rheinland.de.
        IN    NS    ns2.hans.hosteurope.de.
        IN    MX    1 ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM.
        IN    MX    5 ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM.
        IN    MX    5 ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM.
        IN    MX    10 ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.
        IN    MX    10 ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.
        IN    MX    10 ASPMX4.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.
        IN    MX    10 ASPMX5.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.

yfu-rheinland.de.    IN    A    87.230.35.102
yfu-rheinland.de.    IN    TXT    "v=spf1 a mx ip4:87.230.35.102 ~all"
ns1        IN    A    87.230.35.102
ns2        IN    A    80.237.128.10
mail        IN    A    87.230.35.102
localhost    IN    A    127.0.0.1
www        CNAME    yfu-rheinland.de.
ftp        CNAME    yfu-rheinland.de.
gmail        CNAME    ghs.google.com
; sub [webmail.yfu-rheinland.de] entry BEGIN.
webmail.yfu-rheinland.de.                IN    A    87.230.35.102
www.webmail.yfu-rheinland.de.            IN    A    87.230.35.102
ftp.webmail.yfu-rheinland.de.            IN    A    87.230.35.102
localhost.webmail.yfu-rheinland.de.    IN    A    127.0.0.1
; sub [webmail.yfu-rheinland.de] entry END.

; sub [{SUB_NAME}] entry BEGIN.
; sub [{SUB_NAME}] entry END.
Thx.
drumlover
*edit*
The part is where I try to put gmail to ghs.google.com

RE: CNAME changes for Googlemail Apps, doesn't really work - Seth - 08-29-2007 05:39 AM

gmail CNAME ghs.google.com
replace with
gmail CNAME ghs.google.com.
i think this is the problem Smile

RE: CNAME changes for Googlemail Apps, doesn't really work - Seth - 08-29-2007 11:08 PM

hmm, how to make sendmail to send mail thru google apps? cuz if i send it from my server it always gets in bulk Sad
Debian etch

RE: CNAME changes for Googlemail Apps, doesn't really work - drumlover - 08-30-2007 03:23 AM

I use postfix with etch, and it works fine...

but I encountered another problem...
If I'm trying to create Users for the domain I can't really get the mail.... because it's not created on the server...
anybody knows how to change this or is it interferring with some app in ispcp?? maybe the webmail app???
Thanks...

RE: CNAME changes for Googlemail Apps, doesn't really work - Seth - 08-30-2007 07:07 AM

i uninstalled ispcp cuzz it has that nasty habbit to create www, ftp, localhost, etc for every subdomain..for example if i add a subdomain "test" in ispcp, it adds
http://www.test.domain.com
http://ftp.test.domain.com
localhost.test.domain.com
and if i modify them manually and i want to add another subdomain, the changes to the zone are reverted.. :|

RE: CNAME changes for Googlemail Apps, doesn't really work - raphael - 08-30-2007 08:08 AM

Quote:because it's not created on the server
what do you mean?

RE: CNAME changes for Googlemail Apps, doesn't really work - drumlover - 08-30-2007 03:14 PM

raphael Wrote:
Quote:because it's not created on the server
what do you mean?
if I'm trying to create a maik adress for example
name.in@domain.tld
in googlemail, it doesn't appear on the webserver because it doesn't get any alias in the config files for postfix...
that means that i have to create every email i'm tring to user manually over ispcp.. and the CNAME change still doesn't work..

RE: CNAME changes for Googlemail Apps, doesn't really work - raphael - 08-31-2007 08:49 AM

Quote:in googlemail
of course it won't appear in ispCP: there's no way for ispCP to know that you added a mail address! and even if it knew about it; what's the point on having it displayed if you can't manage those email accounts from ispCP? (btw, I'm not expecting a reply)

RE: CNAME changes for Googlemail Apps, doesn't really work - joximu - 08-31-2007 05:13 PM

@drumlover:
you have to decide if you take googlemail as mail application or use ispCP for it.
Since you send all Mails per DNS MX entry to gmail, ispCP won't see any of them.
If you are sending mails via your ispCP server you have to make sure that postfix does not take them (eg. a mail from a web application which is hosted on your ispCP server is sending a mail to xyz@yfu-rheinland.de: your postfix says: "ok that's my business" and the mail won't go to googlemail.
What I want to point out: it's not that easy yet to use ispcp in the way you want (only a part).
/J

RE: CNAME changes for Googlemail Apps, doesn't really work - BioALIEN - 09-03-2007 07:32 PM

I'm interested in hearing more about this topic. Currently, using cPanel it seems to work well with Google Apps. When the server sends an email, it goes out to the relevant user on gmail.

I tried to get this working on ispConfig and failed. I hope it can work in ispCP.