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new table-less gui planned / worked on? - simple - 07-01-2008 10:42 PM

In favor of simple templating / layouting the gui I'd prefer an xhtml/css-based gui instead of the heavy table usage it currently is build upon. Since there's no programming involved, it would only include all template files to be changed.

Has someone already started this? Is it in the roadmap of future versions? If not, I would be happy to provide this part of development myself. Because it is a lot of work, I'd like to hear from some developers - and of course users - if or if not this would be a nice thing to have.

greets
Markus


RE: new table-less gui planned / worked on? - gOOvER - 07-01-2008 10:45 PM

I think, this is a good idea. Maybe you can contact RatS.


RE: new table-less gui planned / worked on? - Zothos - 07-01-2008 11:05 PM

Just start programming and provide patches. Then we could easily take a look at how you are working and verify your changes. Smile

If your work is commited into the trunk, im sure you get a svn account for easier coding Wink

greez
/Z


RE: new table-less gui planned / worked on? - Cube - 07-02-2008 04:10 AM

Please search also the forum. There were already many threads about this - with many ideas.


RE: new table-less gui planned / worked on? - zpin - 07-02-2008 06:21 AM

Also, the templates are not optimally used right now. The main layout is repeated in every template file. Same for the mainmenu.
Changing only minor things in the design is a major pita...


RE: new table-less gui planned / worked on? - ephigenie - 07-02-2008 07:22 AM

yeah ... its really a pita - thats why we're focussing on finishing 1.0 and then move on with something like smarty as template engine.

Then we can use the templates more efficient then what is actually done.


RE: new table-less gui planned / worked on? - simple - 07-02-2008 07:40 AM

I didn't find a single item on this, searching for the obvious "template", "table-less", "tableless", "gui remake" (and some more). I think changing the templates makes sense even before switching to Smarty in post-1.0-times. The new and cleaner templates can be converted much easier. I'll contact rats and beginn transforming as soon as I get an answer from him - maybe he knows if someone is already doing the job.

greets
Markus


RE: new table-less gui planned / worked on? - Cube - 07-02-2008 08:00 AM

Quote:I didn't find a single item on this, searching for the obvious "template", "table-less", "tableless", "gui remake" (and some more).
for example: http://www.isp-control.net/forum/formatting-style-of-the-engine-parts-%28perl%29-t-3272.html
(it starts with perl but goes on with GUI)


RE: new table-less gui planned / worked on? - motokochan - 07-02-2008 08:31 AM

I personally don't care for Smarty. It's bulky and yet another external dependency.

I've actually really enjoyed the way SMF handles templating. It makes for a nice separation of code and layout, and makes translation really easy. It also makes things much more modular.

I'm planning on deploying ispCP Omega on the servers at work (at least the shared hosting and customer-operated dedicated ones), so I'd be more than happy to help with a move in a much better direction for the GUI.


RE: new table-less gui planned / worked on? - RatS - 07-02-2008 08:37 AM

TBS is my favourite. Only one file and some extensions. Really fast ans efficient. I don't like Smarty, too. However we are talking about GUI design remake and you are welcome to rewrite it to XHTML 1.0 and CSS 2.1.

I've contacted simple directly.